Maximum amount without tax declaration, which amount should be taken into account and if there are multiple eBay accounts?
Summary: rikko14 asks questions about the tax obligations for sales made as a private individual on eBay, especially the maximum amounts that must be declared. He compares the information received from eBay and other sources, which varies between €3,000 and €5,000. frelonverre replies that all transactions must be totaled, and that since 2018, platforms automatically report to the tax authorities, which limits tax evasion. Several participants discuss the implications of the EU DAC7 Directive, indicating that these thresholds have changed to €2,000 or 30 transactions. There is also a debate about the ethics of taxes and how platforms work. One participant, kilorahoy, clarifies that beyond certain thresholds, the activity may be considered professional. The discussion highlights the complexity of the regulations and the confusion surrounding reporting obligations.
Hello,
I just got a call back from Ebay because I wanted to know, as a private individual, what the maximum amount is that I can sell without having to file a tax declaration.
The person I spoke to says: 20 transactions and a total amount above €3000.
Yet I read here: Sale of personal goods: do these earnings have to be declared? | economie.gouv.fr and here: Will sales of items on Le **bleep** soon be taxed? (corrigetonimpot.fr) that the maximum amount is €5000
1- is it €3000 or €5000 in annual turnover?
2- In the monthly financial statement, what amount should be used to reach the turnover? Is it the last line "deposits"
3- If I have several accounts with several email addresses but the same details (Last name, first name, address, bank account no.) are the sales amounts added together or is the maximum turnover amount per account?
4- if we sell on another platform like LBC or **bleep** is the maximum amount of €3000 or €5000 cumulative or independent per platform?
5- I had to refund sales following item returns; are the fees charged by Ebay refunded automatically or do I have to take a specific step, and what is that step?
Thanks for your feedback on all of these points.
Kind regards.
adnxy
·11 months agoHello,
regarding the platform reporting requirement, I see inaccurate information in this thread.
It’s no longer when there are more than 20 transactions or if the total exceeds €3000.
It is now 30 transactions or €2000.
However, I have a question: I sold 26 items in 2025, for a total of 24 orders (because two orders had two items). In the summary, eBay shows a total of 24. Does the reporting requirement take into account the number of items (in which case my count is 26) or the number of transactions (in which case I am still at 24)?
Thanks!
francexpressdeal
·11 months agoHello @adnxy
it's the number of articles that is taken into account, so your count is at 26.
kilorahoy
·1 year agoMy bad, I just found out that the thresholds were changed in 2024 for platform obligations. It's now 2000€ or 30 transactions per year.
For accounts, the 5000€ limit is still maintained.
kilorahoy
·1 year agoGood evening,
No, that’s not it at all. All platforms are required to declare to the tax authorities the amounts received by sellers when there are more than 20 transactions or if the total exceeds €3000.
On the other hand, private individuals are only required to file their income tax return when they exceed €5000 per year (or if they do an activity that has become professional and in that case they must create a micro-business). Of course, all platform income is added together and all accounts on Ebay too.
These are all the amounts you receive: (sale price + shipping fees) - Ebay fees. Cancelled sales are not taken into account (at least on Ebay).
lingma85
·1 year agoGood evening @kilorahoy and Co,
You will find in the link below the declarations to make depending on your activity on the web, whether as a private seller or a professional.
The article is easy to read and remember (it was written at the beginning of July this year and sums up all the answers to the questions that many people ask)---->
Should you declare your internet sales? Complete guide
Kind regards
PS
Thanks to the Moderation team for keeping this link.
francexpressdeal
·1 year agoGood evening @kilorahoy
you say: "All platforms are required to report to the tax authorities the amounts received by sellers when there are more than 20 transactions or if the total exceeds €3000. "
The thresholds have changed:
https://www.ebay.fr/help/selling/selling/directive-dac7-de-lue-et-loi-sur-la-transparence-fiscale-des-plateformes-%E2%80%93-obligations-en-matire-de-dclaration-des-ventes?id=5394&st=3&pos=4&query=Directive%20DAC7%20de%20l%27UE%20et%20loi%20sur%20la%20transparence%20fiscale%20des%20plateformes%20%E2%80%93%20Obligations%20en%20mati%C3%A8re%20de%20d%C3%A9claration%20des%20ventes&intent=dac7&lucenceai=lucenceai&docId=HELP1733
redonn8
·1 year agoHello
This is a topic that sparks a lot of debate, but it is nevertheless clear.
Whether on Ebay or any peer-to-peer platforms, even Blabacar, Airbnb, etc.
You must comply with the EU directives and the French tax authorities, namely less than 2000 euros a year or 30 transactions in 2025, even if it is 30 sales at 1 or 2 euros.
Beyond this amount or these 30 transactions, Ebay provides the tax authorities with (detailed) information about your sales, as Sissi Austria says, and then they will require your tax number. Warning! This amount and these 30 transactions are the cumulative total of your sales across all platforms.
Buying and reselling is considered commerce; there is also a tax on gold, silver, platinum, and on works of art or collectibles as well.
What seems logical to me is that if you generate, say, 10,000 or 15,000 a year, you are liable for 29% on your turnover, which includes the sale but also shipping costs.
Kind regards
sissi.austria
·1 year agohello,
I don't understand when I receive emails from sales sites it says 2000 euros and no longer 3000 euros as before
here is what is written : DAC7 Directive : you are a creator located in the EU and you have made more than 30 sales or earned more than 2 000 EUR during the previous year.
and there it asks for a tax number
regards
whitewolf0417
·1 year agofrelonverre
·1 year ago@whitewolf0417
it's good to give ideas but if we're selling items it's because we need to bring in some money, so since all platforms have to declare the sales of those who operate on their site, that leaves only garage sales and there if we stick to the law it's two per year and then you need to have pockets full of cash
whitewolf0417
·1 year agofrelonverre
·1 year ago@whitewolf0417
In 2018 it was our beloved " beloved " Darmanin who came up with this, just because we were abstaining didn’t mean it was the right thing; it’s up to each person to know how far they can go
whitewolf0417
·1 year agoiodangie
·3 years agoHello,
@rikko14
The fact that you sell on several sites and/or with several accounts changes nothing about your problem. The fact that you have several accounts does not change the fact that the income is deposited into a bank account in your name, which the different platforms make sure of.
They will not transfer money to a bank account that is not in your name, partly to avoid money laundering.
eBay, like the other platforms, ensures that your name, address, bank account, etc. are all in order....
At the end of the fiscal year, you receive a statement from all your sites detailing all your transactions.
These must not exceed 3,000 euros or 20 transactions, and that applies to ALL YOUR ACCOUNTS regardless of the site, that is to say you add up the total of all your accounts and this total must not exceed 3,000 euros, since you are an individual.
A reporting exemption by the platforms is provided for income from the sale of second-hand goods between individuals, as well as for services “with no profit motive and with cost-sharing with the beneficiaries” (such as carpooling).
However, this exemption applies only if certain activity thresholds are not exceeded. Concretely, for the exemption to apply, the user must have generated on the platform over the entire calendar year less than €3,000 in revenue OR fewer than 20 transactions.
If the user has exceeded each of these two thresholds (more than €3,000 AND more than 20 transactions), the platform must report the income to the tax authorities: it is indeed possible that this is then a professional activity.
And in that case, you will not be able to hide it.
The platforms do not forget to make the declarations to the tax authorities, because they do not want this to come down on them.
And if you try to have your money transferred to another account with the same name, same address, then the platforms will simply block your money, and you will not get anything anymore.
Try it with eBay and you will quickly see what I mean. You will be banned from selling and your money will be blocked within 48 hours. The test is also valid with the other platforms; checks have become legion, and many people get banned from sites for less than that.
If you want to sell in quantity, then do like all the pros, declare yourself as such.
Best regards
whitewolf0417
·1 year agoTrust between the intermediary and sellers is therefore broken; selling on a platform that rats out its sellers is of no interest ...
francexpressdeal
·3 years agoHello @rikko14
for most of your questions, the tax office you depend on will be able to help you.
The forum isn't really meant to give tips and tricks for dodging taxes ...
iodangie
·3 years agoHello
@rikko14
whitewolf0417
·1 year agofrelonverre
·3 years ago@rikko14
you add up everything you receive across the different platforms and various accounts, and you put that on your tax return
rikko14
OP3 years agoOdd, because I know people who have opened several Ebay accounts to avoid being taxed.. and as for the amount?
on the other hand, the amounts are not to be declared on the 2042 but on a very specific cerfa form (2048 I think)
frelonverre
·3 years ago@rikko14
since 2018 all sites have been reporting your sales to the tax authorities, since you use the same identity everywhere you think you can throw people off with such tricks
Anonymous User
·3 years agohello why not but that's undeclared work this can hurt very hurt the game isn't worth the candle
whitewolf0417
·1 year ago