Antique doll
Summary: In this discussion, letempsdautrefois expresses frustration about the removal of their bid by a seller who sold the item elsewhere outside eBay. frelonverre and other participants explain that the seller still owns the item until the sale is completed, and *miss-tigri* cites eBay’s terms, pointing out that it is generally not forbidden to sell on multiple platforms, although it is discouraged. letempsdautrefois insists that selling simultaneously elsewhere is prohibited according to an eBay advisor they consulted, but other participants question this interpretation without tangible proof. A request to provide a link to this policy was not fulfilled, which keeps the debate going. Later, lester_li reminds everyone to keep the discussion respectful, without personal attacks.
Hello,
Do you think it’s normal for a seller to remove my bid because he sold it on other platforms outside of eBay?
lester_li
·1 year agoHello everyone,
Thanks for avoiding personal attacks and unnecessary comments.
Best regards.
nareio
·2 years agoHello everyone.
At the Brive-la -Gaillarde market,😀,🤣😋 like at all the others, the livestock dealers who made the deal sealed it by shaking hands and saying the sacramental phrase "A pig is a pig"..
Make no mistake: P.I.G, not S.C.A.M . It falls under morals. Not under the law. And to go BACK on your word means it can be done, not nice, but still possible. And it's as old as the world itself...
After that, the livestock dealers carried on with their rounds, and the actual sales were concluded at closing bell (since it's not really practical to carry cattle around in your pockets at the fairground...). The sale is the actual exchange.
Note that the pig dealer could lose his reputation there... but that's another story...
Kisses.
nareio
·2 years agoAnd thanks to @felin12 who says the thing with the words of the present...
Anonymous User
·2 years agohello and on ebay .de a purchase must be settled it's a contract, otherwise you could find yourself in court each country has its own laws regards
letempsdautrefois
OP2 years agowhy are you saying that, I pay and that's not the issue,
the issue is that if a seller cancels an auction when there is already a buyer who has placed a bid, the seller will be charged a penalty fee by Ebay because it is forbidden to sell outside Ebay, the advisor agreed with me, on the chat, half an hour ago
Anonymous User
·2 years agoNo prohibition on selling on another site, you're confusing it with an off-eBay sale, which isn't the same thing.
An off-eBay sale is when the item is sold on eBay but paid for outside the site.
But you can very well cancel an auction to sell on another site.
letempsdautrefois
OP2 years agoWrong, ask an Ebay advisor and you'll see that I'm right, you must not sell on another site when you list that same item for sale on Ebay
frelonverre
·2 years ago@letempsdautrefois
you asked for our opinion, we gave it to you
for us the important thing is to sell, no matter who gets the credit for the communication
jacquelinedu36
·2 years agoHello
@frelonverre
He missed the purchase > so no way to resell it for more on another site > prejudice for him
Happy end-of-year holidays
letempsdautrefois
OP2 years agoYes, the seller can resell it on the **bleep** for example, more expensive or not
Happy end of year
Anonymous User
·2 years agoThat's false and you know it very well but I'm going to stop wasting my time for nothing.
Anonymous User
·2 years agoan auction is not a purchase, best regards
letempsdautrefois
OP2 years agoThis isn't a purchase but a commitment on the part of the seller, if all sellers started having fun removing their listings while there are bids.....?!!
felin12
·2 years agoHello everyone
@letempsdautrefois
For information:
What is an online auction?
The seller is free to choose the buyer, so it is not automatically the last bidder who wins the sale. Buyer and seller remain free to contract on whatever terms they wish. Thus, when the auction closes, the transfer of ownership of the item is not automatic and the price may be renegotiated. Neither the buyer nor the seller is bound by their initial offers.
As a result, the site does not guarantee that the transaction will go through and therefore plays only a limited role in putting people in contact. Potential seller and buyer are able to back out and therefore do not have the certainty of a concluded deal.
https://www.economie.gouv.fr/dgccrf/encheres-sur-internet-les-vendeurs-ne-respectent-pas-toujours-leurs-obligations
best regards
*miss-tigri*
·2 years agoYou’re really stubborn 🫏!
Why should he let the bidding continue when he no longer has the item?
letempsdautrefois
OP2 years agoBut you're the one being stubborn, I never said he had to leave the auction, I said that sellers must not sell the same item on several platforms at the same time!
read and try to understand before replying !!
lingma85
·2 years agoHello @letempsdautrefois
You say------> ", I say that sellers must not sell the same item on several platforms at the same time !"
So, you mean that eBay would impose exclusivity on the listing of an item for as long as it is on the platform...?
Unless I am mistaken... there is nothing in the rules that imposes any exclusivity even for a short period of time....
On the other hand, when stating a fact or what you claim... you have to prove it with a link and possibly a copy or scan of the relevant paragraph...
Without that... what you claim is worthless.
Regards
*miss-tigri*
·2 years agoHello
Here’s what eBay says on the subject: (I didn’t find anything about the prohibition on selling on multiple platforms).......
"To avoid disappointing potential buyers, we recommend that you do not cancel bids unless it is absolutely necessary. However, you may cancel a bid in the following cases :
letempsdautrefois
OP2 years agoWell, you clearly didn’t read it at all because I saw that it says not to sell on other platforms simultaneously!
letempsdautrefois
OP2 years agothe 29-12-2023 07:41
Well, you didn't read it at all because I saw it myself, that it says not to sell on other platforms simultaneously. And besides, it makes sense; otherwise, many buyers would find their auction deleted because the seller sold it elsewhere and, as a result, Ebay would lose the selling fees
frelonverre
·2 years ago@letempsdautrefois
there are laws in France and these also apply to eBay regulations
letempsdautrefois
OP2 years agoFalse, the eBay policy belongs to eBay
frelonverre
·2 years ago@letempsdautrefois
and on French territory, French law applies
and it's the same in all countries
Anonymous User
·2 years agoHello,
Would it be possible to add a link to what you read about this topic?
letempsdautrefois
OP2 years agoYou can check the conditions for sellers and you'll see, I just reported the seller, and the advisor agreed with me, there are penalties for a seller who cancels an ongoing auction
Anonymous User
·2 years agoSo no link to the explicit ban on selling on another platform.
letempsdautrefois
OP2 years agobut you go to terms of sale, it's not complicated...
pannim4
·2 years agoGood evening, the seller will pay , perhaps, a commission, proportional to the amount of the last auction
crazy-bear
·2 years agoHello @letempsdautrefois
this thread is and will remain completely pointless as long as you have not clearly told us where you saw that a seller does not have the right to sell on other sites.
And the fact that eBay customer service told you so does not prove it. Customer service will always tell you what you want to hear ... even if it means going against their terms of use or giving you false information.
Continuing to reply without providing proof of what you're claiming is pointless.
letempsdautrefois
OP2 years agobut you have proof on the wind conditions on ebay, you just need to go read it
letempsdautrefois
OP2 years agoWhen the item is no longer available because it's lost or broken, but not sold elsewhere, the ebay advisor agreed with me, there are penalty fees for sellers who cancel auctions in progress
letempsdautrefois
OP1 year agoFalse, a seller who cancels a bid placed by a buyer is penalized on Ebay!
*miss-tigri*
·1 year agoWhy reopen the debate 18 months later??🥴
I can prove to you with this link that you're wrong ..
Ebay does indeed give the seller the option to cancel bids !
https://www.ebay.fr/help/selling/listings/selling-auctions/canceling-bid?id=4140&st=3&pos=1&query=Annuler%20des%20ench%C3%A8res%20et%20g%C3%A9rer%20les%20ench%C3%A9risseurs&intent=Annuler%20ench&lucenceai=lucenceai&docId=HELP1045
Please read it carefully and intervene only if you have a link or a screenshot saying otherwise ..
letempsdautrefois
OP1 year agoletempsdautrefois
OP2 years agoYet eBay rules forbid selling an item simultaneously on other platforms!
frelonverre
·2 years ago@letempsdautrefois
of course not, the owner of an item can do what he wants with it, legally you can't even force him to sell his property if the price obtained doesn't satisfy him
and don't complain, this seller like others could have let the sale run its course ( it's rude, but it happens sometimes )
frelonverre
·2 years ago@letempsdautrefois
of course it's normal, as long as a sale isn't finalized and an item hasn't been paid for, it is the seller's property; the bid is only an offer from you to make a sale, which they are free to refuse