Private sellers who are actually professional sellers
Summary: tarzan47-33 expresses concerns about competition from certain 'private sellers' on eBay whose sales exceed the threshold for professional status in France, allowing them to avoid taxes and social charges. rodolphe-antiquites suggests focusing on product categorization strategies instead, though tarzan47-33 reiterates that this advice is unrelated to her initial concern. lingma85 advises against acting hastily, suggesting that tax and legal professionals are better suited to handle such issues, rather than individuals.
Hello
I am a professional seller, and on Ebay I am up against surprising competition from "private sellers" whose annual turnover exceeds 4,000 euros (the limit in France after which the seller becomes a professional and must pay social charges and income tax on their sales), who have several thousand items for sale. This situation has existed for several months, even several years in the case of some "private sellers".
Ebay claims to ensure fairness between sellers, which is not the case. These sellers pay neither social charges nor income tax
What should be done? Report it to the tax authorities? But in that case Ebay could be declared an accessory to social fraud and tax fraud.
If Ebay had wanted to step in, it would have been done a long time ago.
Katty
tarzan47-33
OP2 weeks agoIt's interesting, but we're getting off the original topic
lingma85
·2 weeks ago · EditedHello @tarzan47-33
The problem you raised has always existed and becomes more acute when the author of the message’s turnover tends to drop dangerously...
A scapegoat or someone to blame has to be found...
However...
For all the professional sellers who sell second-hand products on different sites.... it’s lucky there are individual sellers to pass the goods on to them... (for a price ...or for free.. )
As for declaring on eBay.. or in real life... only authorized inspectors can judge the usefulness of the thing and sanction it if necessary...
It’s a thorny issue that must be discussed carefully and not
cast disgrace on just anyone without discernment... and at any time...
Regards
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tarzan47-33
OP2 weeks agoThank you, I appreciate your comment.
So if I understand you correctly, it's the work of a tax lawyer and the tax office.
lingma85
·2 weeks agoYou could hear it that way...
but that's certainly not the job of an average user of any old sales site...
As for saying that it's the job of a tax lawyer... that's not the one you think it is...
their work is rather that of a legal professional specializing in tax law, working in advisory, tax optimization, and litigation.
It's not a bogeyman..
Regards
tarzan47-33
OP2 weeks agoThank you for this insightful and constructive comment
rodolphe-antiquites
·2 weeks agoYes Tarzan, in a single-product shop, your store categories shouldn’t be too detailed because you have a lot of items. The main advantage is that the customer finds what they’re looking for really easily. When that’s the case, it’s perfect! But when it isn’t, since the categories are very well organized, they just leave 🙂 so you don’t benefit from the visit. 🙂
In a single-product shop, you need to categorize more broadly, less precisely, so as to leave room inside your inventory for chance, “wandering around” and “accessory” buying, even if there isn’t, inside your shop, an “accessory to the accessory,” since the accessory is the main thing there.
For example, and this is just an example, could you change the classification subcategories, not by newspaper title (the classic format is too big, too heavy) but, for example, by main theme (US car, UK car, French, etc.) so fewer subcategories, and more choice for the customer, and some discoveries. Inviting them to discover titles they didn’t know, and if they can’t find what they’re looking for, inviting them to visit other categories 🙂 rather than leaving.
The main thing: categories, when they’re too rigid, end up breaking the sales process.
🙋🏻
tarzan47-33
OP2 weeks agoIt's interesting, but this is off-topic with respect to the question originally asked
rodolphe-antiquites
·2 weeks agoSpelling mistake in the Altaya category entry.
Correct for exhaust decoking 🤓
The competition will always be part of the problem. Your real problem is more the « single-product » 🤓
In a single-product setup, it’s hard to be a leader 😀
🙋🏻