Avis sur Macbook et Money Gram

[flfl10]

Bonjour, j'ai misé sur un macbook d'un particulier inscrit depuis plus d'un an, il a l'air fiable.

http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=290153543461&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=019

Cependant son email m'interroge:

Hello,
 
The shipping is included in the product price.You won`t have to pay any taxed.I will tell you that the transaction will be done by eBay and as payment method will be Money Gram.You will receive the product in 2-3 shipping days by UPS.If you are interested please contact me.
 
 
Have a nice day!

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Apres recherches j'ai vu que money gram est déconseillé, et la pub à la fin du message est etrange.

Je voudrais donc avoir votre avis sur cette vente.

J'espère ne pas être parano. Mais l'email n'est pas très rassurant. Comment peut on inclure les frais de port et dire qu'il n'y aura pas de taxes douanières?

Je vous remercies de votre aide.

[emma_goldmann.1]

Ca c'est évident !

Arnaque garantie !

Faux mail. 

[parisian_girl]

Correction : je croyais que c'était en dollars... Mais c'est en euros ! La perte sera donc très douloureuse. A ce propos, ça ne vous trouble pas, vous, qu'un pedzouille américain mette son portable en vente en euros ?

Moi, je trouve que ça sent très fort le compte piraté. Mais bon, encore une fois... 

[parisian_girl]

Bonjour, 

Dites voir, Fifi, vous êtes certain d'avoir tout bien compris des conseils qu'on vous a donnés, sur l'autre fil ?

Je n'ai pas l'impression, sinon vous n'auriez sûrement pas foncé dans la première arnaque venue ! Vous avez bien regardé le profil du "vendeur" ? Vous avez bien vu qu'il n'a rien fait depuis des mois sur eBay ? Vous avez bien noté qu'il n'avait jamais rien vendu et que, sur les 6 évaluations qu'il a reçues en tant qu'acheteur, il a une négative ?! Bref, je ne sais vraiment pas où vous avez vu que le profil était "fiable" !!!

Déjà, même moi, je ne jurerais pas que le compte n'est pas piraté, ni l'annonce volée à un autre particulier... Mais bon, si vous tenez à vous faire voler comme dans un bois, envoyez donc vos $ 1600 à l'Américain inconnu. Moi je renonce à vous rendre raisonnable !

Une seule consolation : en euros, ça vous fera bien moins. Mais je ne sais pas si la perte en sera tellement moins douloureuse. 

[wolf_solent]

C'est un cas pathologique

je viens de retrouver l'histoire en intégrale 

http://questions-reponses.ebay.fr/thread.jspa?threadID=900020277

[flfl10]

Dear flfl10( 1 ), You have agreed to purchase the following eBay item from thomason2635( 5 ), on which you placed a bid on.   Macbook Pro 17" 2.4GHz 2GB Ram                                                                                                        Item number: 290153543461     Current bid: EUR 1,510.00      Ended: Aug-29-07 14:43:00 PDT Shipping costs: To Worldwide - FREE Sells to: United States, Europe, Asia, Canada, Australia High bidder: flfl10( 1 ) Meet the seller Seller: thomason2635( 5 ) Member: since Mar-02-06 Buy safely 1.   Check the seller's reputation   No feedback reviews at this time 2.   Learn how you are protected Free buyer protection coverage eBay provides up to US $20,000 in fraud protection for this item.     Item # Item Title Qty. 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